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Bluuuue Rajah  
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 More options Mar 8 2009, 6:54 pm
Newsgroups: alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.politics.obama, soc.men, stl.general, alt.christian.religion
Followup-To: alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.politics.obama, soc.men, stl.general, alt.christian.religion
From: Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:54:27 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 8 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: Liberal Jew gunman kills pastor in Illinois church shooting
"Grizzlie Antagonist" <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:IMUsl.11986$hc1.2436@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:

> "User 42" <newsn...@yoohoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9BC875FF152BBc6e9f@127.0.0.1...
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-08-church-shooting_N.htm

>> MARYVILLE, Ill. - Illinois State Police say a pastor was shot and
>> killed Sunday morning by an assailant at an 8 a.m. worship service.

>> In a telephone interview, Jeff Ross, a lay minister at the First
>> Baptist Church of Maryville, Ill., said Senior Pastor Fred Winters
>> was shot to death after he was hit in the heart and the neck.

>> "He's gone home to be free with the Lord," Ross said.

>> Parishioners tackled the gunman, who wounded himself with a knife,
>> state police told CNN.

>> Master Trooper Ralph Timmins says the man walked down the aisle
>> during the service, exchanged words with the pastor, then drew a
>> .45-caliber handgun and fired.

>> Timmins said the man fatally shot Winters once before the gun jammed,
>> then pulled out a knife and wounded himself.

>> Churchgoers tried to subdue the attacker, and two of them were
>> slightly hurt.

>> Timmins said officials don't know whether Winters and the suspect
>> knew each other.

>> Ross said that over the last 21 years, Winters built the congregation
>> up from about 30 to 1,500 members. "This is just Satan. Who else
>> would do it? Someone who wanted to stop his message," he said.

>> Winters was married and had two daughters, Ross said. Winters had led
>> First Baptist for nearly 22 years and was the former president of the
>> Illinois Baptist State Association and an adjunct professor for
>> Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, according to the church's
>> website.

>> Ross described the church as occupying a suburban location about 18
>> miles outside St. Louis in an area largely untroubled by crime or
>> violence. "He built this church in a cornfield," he said of Winters,
>> "and now houses are filling in around us."

>> Winters, he said, "was on fire for the Lord. He only worried about
>> people who were lost."

>> He said he and other church members were praying for the gunman.
>> "He's still alive, so there's still a chance for him to turn his life
>> around and find the Lord."

> Are you trying to pass off a genuine news item as a joke?

> Are you trying to parody anti-Semitism?

> The gunman isn't even named, and the odds against the gunman being
> Jewish are astronomical.

The OP knows he was a liberal Jew, because the voice of God in his head
said so.  Besides, everybody knows that liberal Jews are all a bunch of
crazy gun nuts, and if he wasn't a liberal Jew, then he must have been a
liberal feminist gun nut, a liberal tree-hugging gun nut, a liberal
Unitarian gun nut, a liberal abortionist gun nut or a liberal stem cell
researcher gun nut.

There's no way he coul been someone the pastor knew, because the voice
of God in the OP's head told him that it had to be a cliched newspaper
stereotype with a political agenda.  Yeah, that's the ticket.


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