>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >> learned.
>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >> elections last year.
>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >> Obama's page:
>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >> the courts."
>> As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by >> third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and WorldNetDaily.com
>> The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes >> later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the >> posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.
> What happened to the parts where he admitted smoking dope, > snorting cocaine and going "down-low" with Tony Rezko?
You have to buy his autobiography for the good stuff ;-)
>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >> learned.
>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >> elections last year.
>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >> Obama's page:
>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >> the courts."
>> As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by >> third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and WorldNetDaily.com
>> The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes >> later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the >> posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.
> What happened to the parts where he admitted smoking dope, > snorting cocaine and going "down-low" with Tony Rezko?
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:35:53 -0400, "No More Bushes...EVER!"
<n...@shown.cc> wrote: >You have that right. And 9-11 was an inside job, Elvis is still alive >and the space aliens are interbreeding with our race as we speak.
>So to protect yourself I recommend covering your head with aluminum >foil, say 10 Hail Mary's and cover the windows and doors with duct tape.
>That will make you feel better about your miserable life.
Again a leftist demonstrates that Revisionism and censorship is the Leftwing way.
Laugh laugh laugh
For your reading pleasure.....
British Editorial on Obama's Victory
The Daily Mail (UK) wrote this editorial about Obama on 1/6/2009.
(confirmation, Google "London Daily Mail Obama's Victory")
Obama's Victory--A British view
A victory for the hysterical Oprah Winfrey, the mad racist preacher Jeremiah Wright, the US mainstream media who abandoned any sense of objectivity long ago, Europeans who despise America largely because they depend on her, comics who claim to be dangerous and fearless but would not dare attack genuinely powerful special interest groups. A victory for Obama-worshippers everywhere. A victory for the cult of the cult. A man who has done little with his life but has written about his achievements as if he had found the cure for cancer in between winning a marathon and building a nuclear reactor with his teeth. Victory for style over substance, hyperbole over history, rabble-raising over reality.
A victory for Hollywood , the most dysfunctional community in the world. Victory for Streisand, Spielberg, Soros, Moore, and Sarandon. Victory for those who prefer welfare to will and interference to independence. For those who settle for group think and herd mentality rather than those who fight for individual initiative and the right to be out of step with meager political fashion.
Victory for a man who is no friend of freedom. He and his people have already stated that media has to be controlled so as to be balanced, without realizing the extraordinary irony within that statement. Like most liberal zealots, the Obama worshippers constantly speak of Fox and Limbaugh, when the vast bulk of television stations and newspapers are drastically liberal and anti-conservative. Senior Democrat Chuck Schumer said that just as pornography should be censored, so should talk radio. In other words, one of the few free and open means of popular expression may well be cornered and beaten by bullies who even in triumph cannot tolerate any criticism and opposition. A victory for those who believe the state is better qualified to raise children than the family, for those who prefer teachers' unions to teaching and for those who are naively convinced that if the West is sufficiently weak towards its enemies, war and terror will dissolve as quickly as the tears on the face of a leftist celebrity.
A victory for social democracy even after most of Europe has come to the painful conclusion that social democracy leads to mediocrity, failure, unemployment, inflation, higher taxes and economic stagnation. A victory for intrusive lawyers, banal sentimentalists, social extremists and urban snobs.
Congratulations America ! Your funeral will be sooner than you think!
>>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >>> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >>> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >>> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >>> learned.
>>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >>> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >>> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >>> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >>> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >>> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >>> elections last year.
>>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >>> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >>> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >>> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >>> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >>> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >>> Obama's page:
>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>> the courts."
>>> As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by >>> third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and WorldNetDaily.com
>>> The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes >>> later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the >>> posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.
>> What happened to the parts where he admitted smoking dope, >> snorting cocaine and going "down-low" with Tony Rezko?
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
>>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >>> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >>> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >>> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >>> learned.
>>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >>> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >>> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >>> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >>> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >>> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >>> elections last year.
>>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >>> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >>> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >>> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >>> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >>> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >>> Obama's page:
>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>> the courts."
>>> As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by >>> third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and >>> WorldNetDaily.com
>>> The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes >>> later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the >>> posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.
>> What happened to the parts where he admitted smoking dope, snorting >> cocaine and going "down-low" with Tony Rezko?
>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >> learned.
>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >> elections last year.
>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >> Obama's page:
>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >> the courts."
And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>> As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by >> third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and WorldNetDaily.com
>> The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes >> later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the >> posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.
> What happened to the parts where he admitted smoking dope, > snorting cocaine and going "down-low" with Tony Rezko?
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>> the courts."
>And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy made up thingie?
And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
Inquiring minds really really want to know.
Gunner
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>> the courts." >> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and > released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy > made up thingie?
Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get used to it.
> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
Please take the time to read this (noting when it was written) and then make sure everyone you can think of who could possibly benefit from Mr. Wood's words receives a copy. He wrote this for Unfiltered News from the Reality Zone, Compiled by Edward Griffin http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html
"Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media far more, for they will destroy your honor." _________________________________________________________________________
Read your history books. Germany of the 20's and 30's again...
SOMETHING OF HISTORIC PROPORTIONS IS HAPPENING By Tim Wood
"I am a student of history.. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back. Why?
We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has 'loaned' two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of 'we the people,' who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why? We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, and school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago? We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about) the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary.. Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders. No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more important.
Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.
Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now!
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning.
And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his 'brown shirts' would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department-by-department, person-by-person, bureaucracy-by-bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.
He did it with a compliant media. Did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.
(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)
Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England(he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.
Don't forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years 'a shorter time span than just two terms of the U.. S. presidency' it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.
Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe, and why I believe it.
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am."
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote: >Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>>> the courts." >>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and >> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy >> made up thingie?
>Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut >says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get >used to it.
"A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One is a fraud, the other is factual.
If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World?
>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>> Inquiring minds really really want to know.
>No, nut cases want to know.
What are you so afraid of?
Methinks you doth protest far far too much.
Gunner
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>>>> the courts." >>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and >>> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy >>> made up thingie? >> Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut >> says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get >> used to it.
> "A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
> I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One > is a fraud, the other is factual.
Your full of shit, but that's expected.
> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the > office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World?
You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >> No, nut cases want to know.
> What are you so afraid of?
> Methinks you doth protest far far too much.
Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
> >> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited > >> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of > >> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with > >> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has > >> learned.
> >> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily > >> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of > >> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. > >> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once > >> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media > >> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential > >> elections last year.
> >> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns > >> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
> >> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills > >> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still > >> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
> >> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility > >> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from > >> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
> >> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to > >> Obama's page:
> >> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. > >> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of > >> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have > >> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama > >> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by > >> the courts."
> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
And of course Wikipedia doesn't censor that kind of thing on the pages of politicians with whom they philosophically disagree if the substance-less innuendo has been reported by significant media sources.
>>>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >>>> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >>>> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >>>> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >>>> learned.
>>>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >>>> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >>>> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >>>> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >>>> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >>>> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >>>> elections last year.
>>>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >>>> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>>>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >>>> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >>>> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>>>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >>>> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >>>> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>>>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >>>> Obama's page:
>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>> the courts." >> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
> And of course Wikipedia doesn't censor that kind of thing on the pages > of politicians with whom they philosophically disagree if the > substance-less innuendo has been reported by significant media sources.
So if enough news organizations said there was innuendo that Obama was an inter dimensional time traveler from Neptune then we could put it in the Wiki?
> Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the >>>>>>> U.S. >>>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning >>>>>>> Obama >>>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown >>>>>>> out by >>>>>>> the courts." >>>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>>>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and >>>> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy >>>> made up thingie? >>> Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut >>> says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get >>> used to it.
>> "A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
>> I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One >> is a fraud, the other is factual.
> Your full of shit, but that's expected.
>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World?
> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >>> No, nut cases want to know.
>> What are you so afraid of?
>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much.
> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
>> Gunner
Obama presented a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth...which is NOT a birth certificate in the state of Hawaii. The Birth Certificate he provided was a cobbled together certificate and was proven not to be legit. Then when he went to visit his dying mother in Hawaii several months ago, he met with the governor of Hawaii...and for some reason, the governor "sealed" the record and the Certificate will never be seen.
Yes, it's very odd for a birth certificate to be sealed...I can't think of any reason for that. But, with that said, I'm not one of those that question his (Obama's) citizenship..> but the sealing of the certificate by the governor is a head scratching moment.
> >>>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited > >>>> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of > >>>> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with > >>>> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has > >>>> learned.
> >>>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily > >>>> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of > >>>> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. > >>>> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once > >>>> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media > >>>> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential > >>>> elections last year.
> >>>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns > >>>> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
> >>>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills > >>>> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still > >>>> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
> >>>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility > >>>> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from > >>>> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
> >>>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to > >>>> Obama's page:
> >>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. > >>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of > >>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have > >>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama > >>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by > >>>> the courts." > >> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
> > And of course Wikipedia doesn't censor that kind of thing on the pages > > of politicians with whom they philosophically disagree if the > > substance-less innuendo has been reported by significant media sources.
> So if enough news organizations said there was innuendo that Obama was > an inter dimensional time traveler from Neptune then we could put it in > the Wiki?
If that's their standard for everyone else.
The point, for those too dense to grasp it, isn't whether the whole birth certificate thing is true. It's that Wikipedia apparently has two sets of standards for this sort of thing: one for politicians they like and one for politicians they don't.
A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It was a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted instantly.
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:02:54 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote: >Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>>>>> the courts." >>>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>>>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and >>>> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy >>>> made up thingie? >>> Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut >>> says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get >>> used to it.
>> "A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
>> I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One >> is a fraud, the other is factual.
>Your full of shit, but that's expected.
Proof? Are you claiming that its not possible to get alternate forms of ID. In fact I do have one that was gotten from a county office, using the name of a child that was still born, two years before my own actual date of birth. Its quite simple to do if one knows how.
It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA benefits and so forth....
Its also very easily done if you have lots of money and a party machne behind you.
>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World?
>You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed?
And as I said...which one? I have two.
>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >>> No, nut cases want to know.
>> What are you so afraid of?
>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much.
>Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
I do indeed have two. And apparently so does your Obamassiah.
What are you so afraid of?
Gunner
>> Gunner
>> at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars >> exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" >> mariposa rand mair theal
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
David Johnston wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:09:34 -0500, "charliekilo" > <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Obama presented a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth...which is NOT a birth >> certificate in the state of Hawaii. The Birth Certificate he provided was a >> cobbled together certificate and was proven not to be legit. Then when he >> went to visit his dying mother in Hawaii several months ago, he met with the >> governor of Hawaii...and for some reason, the governor "sealed" the record >> and the Certificate will never be seen.
> The problem with that is, it's a lie. The governor never "sealed" the > record because original birth records were never open to viewing by > the public in the first place.
>>>>>> Wikipedia, the online "free encyclopedia" mega-site written and edited >>>>>> entirely by its users, has been deleting within minutes any mention of >>>>>> eligibility issues surrounding Barack Obama's presidency, with >>>>>> administrators kicking off anyone who writes about the subject, WND has >>>>>> learned.
>>>>>> A perusal through Obama's current Wikipedia entry finds a heavily >>>>>> guarded, mostly glowing biography about the U.S. president. Some of >>>>>> Obama's most controversial past affiliations, including with Rev. >>>>>> Jeremiah Wright and former Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers, are not once >>>>>> mentioned, even though those associations received much news media >>>>>> attention and served as dominant themes during the presidential >>>>>> elections last year.
>>>>>> Also completely lacking is any mention of the well-publicized concerns >>>>>> surrounding Obama's eligibility to serve as commander-in-chief.
>>>>>> Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills >>>>>> the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still >>>>>> want to see it, join more than 300,000 others and sign up now!
>>>>>> Indeed, multiple times, Wikipedia users who wrote about the eligibility >>>>>> issues had their entries deleted almost immediately and were banned from >>>>>> re-posting any material on the website for three days.
>>>>>> In one example, Wikipedia user "Jerusalem21" added the following to >>>>>> Obama's page:
>>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>>>> the courts." >>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance. >>> And of course Wikipedia doesn't censor that kind of thing on the pages >>> of politicians with whom they philosophically disagree if the >>> substance-less innuendo has been reported by significant media sources. >> So if enough news organizations said there was innuendo that Obama was >> an inter dimensional time traveler from Neptune then we could put it in >> the Wiki?
> If that's their standard for everyone else.
> The point, for those too dense to grasp it, isn't whether the whole > birth certificate thing is true. It's that Wikipedia apparently has two > sets of standards for this sort of thing: one for politicians they like > and one for politicians they don't.
> A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't > substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and > admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It was > a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and > even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted > instantly.
because you have tried that? or is it just rumor that they delete it.
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:02:54 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. >>>>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of >>>>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have >>>>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama >>>>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by >>>>>>>> the courts." >>>>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
>>>>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and >>>>> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy >>>>> made up thingie? >>>> Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut >>>> says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get >>>> used to it.
>>> "A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
>>> I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One >>> is a fraud, the other is factual. >> Your full of shit, but that's expected.
> Proof? Are you claiming that its not possible to get alternate forms > of ID. In fact I do have one that was gotten from a county office, > using the name of a child that was still born, two years before my own > actual date of birth. Its quite simple to do if one knows how.
> It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA > benefits and so forth....
> Its also very easily done if you have lots of money and a party > machne behind you. >>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >>> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World? >> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
> So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed?
When will all the other Presidents birth certificates be revealed? Is this a standard that has been applied universally or just for the guy you don't like?
> And as I said...which one? I have two.
>>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >>>> No, nut cases want to know. >>> What are you so afraid of?
>>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much. >> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
> I do indeed have two. And apparently so does your Obamassiah.
Ok, since you're into showing proof so badly, put yours up on the internet. But you won't.
>>> at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars >>> exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" >>> mariposa rand mair theal
> at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars > exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" > mariposa rand mair theal
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:49:10 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote: >A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't >substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and >admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It was >a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and >even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted >instantly.
Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind that it might be an idea to check the wikipedia entry and see whether Wright is mentioned in it? I did. He was.
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:41:00 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA >> benefits and so forth....
>> Its also very easily done if you have lots of money and a party >> machne behind you. >>>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >>>> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World? >>> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
>> So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed?
>When will all the other Presidents birth certificates be revealed? Is >this a standard that has been applied universally or just for the guy >you don't like?
One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the US?
> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:41:00 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
> >> It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA > >> benefits and so forth....
> >> Its also very easily done if you have lots of money and a party > >> machne behind you. > >>>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the > >>>> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World? > >>> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
> >> So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed?
> >When will all the other Presidents birth certificates be revealed? Is > >this a standard that has been applied universally or just for the guy > >you don't like?
> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other > hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been > raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some > other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the > US?
> >> And as I said...which one? I have two.
> >>>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
> >>>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. > >>>>> No, nut cases want to know. > >>>> What are you so afraid of?
> >>>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much. > >>> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
> >> I do indeed have two. And apparently so does your Obamassiah.
> >Ok, since you're into showing proof so badly, put yours up on the > >internet. But you won't.
> Im not running for president. When I do, you will be the first to see > the valid one. I promise.
> >> What are you so afraid of?
> Still no answer? Odd.....you seem desperately afraid of something > about his birth certificate.
> A simple release form and letting the media look at his actual birth > certificate and the question would be solved once and for all.
> Simple, no?
> Btw...while its getting harder and harder to do.....its still possible > to get ID that will stand up on its own..
> at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars > exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" > mariposa rand mair theal- Hide quoted text -
>On Mar 9, 9:29?pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:41:00 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> >> It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA >> >> benefits and so forth....
>> >> Its also very easily done if ?you have lots of money and a party >> >> machne behind you. >> >>>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >> >>>> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World? >> >>> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
>> >> So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed?
>> >When will all the other Presidents birth certificates be revealed? ?Is >> >this a standard that has been applied universally or just for the guy >> >you don't like?
>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other >> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been >> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some >> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the >> US?
>> >> And as I said...which one? ?I have two.
>> >>>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>> >>>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >> >>>>> No, nut cases want to know. >> >>>> What are you so afraid of?
>> >>>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much. >> >>> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
>> >> I do indeed have two. And apparently so does your Obamassiah.
>> >Ok, since you're into showing proof so badly, put yours up on the >> >internet. ?But you won't.
>> Im not running for president. ?When I do, you will be the first to see >> the valid one. I promise.
>> >> What are you so afraid of?
>> Still no answer? ? Odd.....you seem desperately afraid of something >> about his birth ?certificate.
>> A simple release form and letting the media look at his actual birth >> certificate and the question would be solved once and for all.
>> Simple, no?
>> Btw...while its getting harder and harder to do.....its still possible >> to get ID that will stand up ?on its own..
>> at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars >> ?exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" >> ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?mariposa rand mair theal- Hide quoted text -
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>I blame the Illuminati myself. And the Masons.
blame them for what?
at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar" mariposa rand mair theal
SO now your saying the Left = Nazis and the President will become a Dictator?
How much money will you give me when it doesn't turn out that way?
Drag your feet, bitch and moan, spread Uncertainty, Fear, & Doubt. In the mean time some others of us, not with wool over our eyes btw, will be trying to actually _make_ a better world. I could use your help. How constructive can you be, anyway?
TBerk My, my, look at all the x-posting... az.politics, rec.arts.tv, alt.gossip.celebrities, misc.survivalism, alt.politics.obama
> Gunner Asch wrote: > > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:44:14 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
> >> Gunner Asch wrote: > >>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:15 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
> >>>>>> "There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. > >>>>>> after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of > >>>>>> his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have > >>>>>> been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama > >>>>>> to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by > >>>>>> the courts." > >>>> And of course it's all innuendo without substance.
> >>> If that were the case, why hasnt he simply done the simple thing and > >>> released a copy of his actual birth certificate, instead of a clumsy > >>> made up thingie? > >> Does he need to also prove he's not from Mars if someone right wing nut > >> says he is? His birth cerificate is on record and he's President, get > >> used to it.
> > "A" birth certificate is on record. But its not a valid one.
> > I have 2 birth certificates. Both have different ages and names. One > > is a fraud, the other is factual.
> Your full of shit, but that's expected.
You're full of it.
> > If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the > > office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World?
> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government.
So every time a government entity asked for my birth certificate I could have said "You already have it?"
You're full of it.
> >>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
> >>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. > >> No, nut cases want to know.
> > What are you so afraid of?
> > Methinks you doth protest far far too much.
> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol
Some think the same of Obama. What are you afraid of?
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:41:00 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> It can complicate things in later years, if one is trying to get VA >>> benefits and so forth....
>>> Its also very easily done if you have lots of money and a party >>> machne behind you. >>>>> If I present the fraudulent one...is it something you wish to base the >>>>> office of the presidency on? And the fate of the Free World? >>>> You don't present it, it's what's on record with the government. >>> So when will Obamas actual birth certificate be revealed? >> When will all the other Presidents birth certificates be revealed? Is >> this a standard that has been applied universally or just for the guy >> you don't like?
> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other > hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been > raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some > other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the > US?
>>> And as I said...which one? I have two. >>>>>>> And why have his relatives continued to maintain he was born in Kenya?
>>>>>>> Inquiring minds really really want to know. >>>>>> No, nut cases want to know. >>>>> What are you so afraid of?
>>>>> Methinks you doth protest far far too much. >>>> Nah, you're just a fruitcake with two birth certificates, lol >>> I do indeed have two. And apparently so does your Obamassiah. >> Ok, since you're into showing proof so badly, put yours up on the >> internet. But you won't.
> Im not running for president. When I do, you will be the first to see > the valid one. I promise. >>> What are you so afraid of?
> Still no answer? Odd.....you seem desperately afraid of something > about his birth certificate.
> A simple release form and letting the media look at his actual birth > certificate and the question would be solved once and for all.
> Simple, no?
If it was so important, why did the RNC not challenge it?
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