On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer.
>Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
Because Steele shit in his hat?
Gunner
"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:31:32 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:12:49 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:08:03 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:28 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other >>>>>>>>> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been >>>>>>>>> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some >>>>>>>>> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the >>>>>>>>> US? >>>>>>>> John McCain >>>>>>> Born on US property. In the Canal Zone. All quite legal. >>>>>> I don't think so. He can only prove it to me if he shows me a copy of >>>>>> his birth certificate. >>>>> He has already shown it to people who actually count in the grand >>>>> scheme of things. >>>> Like? >>> http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/unique_astrology/Unsorted/?act...
>>> You dont know how to use Google I take it? >> I see no connection between that photoshopped piece of junk and John McCain.
> Would that be like Obamas photoshopped but of junk ?
Matters not what I think, it's what the courts think and they've continually thrown cout case after case regarding the legality of his ability to hold the office of President.
>>> Some are still pending according to the article.
>>> Taitz explained the issue isn't resolved as many Obama supporters >>> claim.
>>> The "Certification of Live Birth" posted on the Internet actually >>> doesn't confirm a birth location.
>>> "[Hawaii] statute 138 allows foreign born children of HI residents to >>> get HI [Certificates of Live Birth] and get them based on a statement >>> of one relative only," she said.
>>> She also said Hawaiian officials, while they confirmed a birth >>> certificate exists, did not exclude the possibility it was "one >>> obtained for a foreign born child."
>>> She also cited Obama's immigration to Indonesia at age 5, when he was >>> considered an Indonesian citizen.
>>> And something that raises some serious questions.......
>>> WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii >>> prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. >>> But his research and discoveries only raised more questions, the >>> biggest being why, if there exists documentation of Obama's >>> eligibility, hasn't it been released to quell the rumors.
>>> Instead, a series of law firms have been hired on Obama's behalf >>> around the nation to prevent any public access to his birth >>> certificate, passport records, college records and other documents.
>>> What are the Democrats so afraid of? Sealed his college records and >>> so forth?
>>> Why not simply release a true copy of his birth certificate, and save >>> the taxpayers a huge amount of money and allay all suspiciions?
>>> Gunner >> Here's a real simple question. Who are the Plaintiffs names, who is >> their legal representation, and what court is hearing the case?
> I see you didnt review the article. Plaintiffs are clearly indicated
> As to the courts, no idea except as noted in the article.
I persued the article but it's kind of hard taking its value being on a far right wing website.
>>> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product >>> A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced >>> before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone >>> before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected >>> they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual >>> and moral principles." >>> —Sun Tzu
> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product > A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced > before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone > before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected > they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual > and moral principles." > —Sun Tzu
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
> Because Steele shit in his hat?
Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product > A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced > before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone > before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected > they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual > and moral principles." > —Sun Tzu
> >> >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:49:10 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >> >A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't > >> >> >substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and > >> >> >admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It > >> >> >was > >> >> >a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and > >> >> >even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted > >> >> >instantly.
> >> >> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind that it > >> >> might be an idea to check the wikipedia entry and see whether Wright > >> >> is mentioned in it? I did. He was.
> >> >It wasn't as of yesterday when this story came out.
> >> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind to check the > >> page history for the entry to see whether the claim you were making > >> was true? I did. You can do it too. The reference to Reverend > >> Wright was there yesterday.
> >LOL! So this is what you're talking about:
> >"Obama resigned from Trinity during the Presidential campaign after > >controversial statements made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright became public."
> >Leaving aside how one can "resign" from a church in which one is not > >employed, there's nothing there about the statements, nothing about the > >credibility issues surrounding Obama's claims of how long he attended
> If you didn't mean "mention" you should have used another word.
Ah, so we're playing the cowardly "nit-pick the semenatics" game. I didn't realize that. My bad. I actually gave you more credit than that. Won't happen again.
Thanatos wrote: > In article <cq1dr415na7odgj3tbup72ndfkctdfn...@4ax.com>, > David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:12:12 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <0hpbr4pii7a2i0jbauut6a1d3mr6s43...@4ax.com>, >>> David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:48:35 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <v2fbr45gfnrcsm0asp5g7dgm53jiqaj...@4ax.com>, >>>>> David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:49:10 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't >>>>>>> substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and >>>>>>> admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and >>>>>>> even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted >>>>>>> instantly. >>>>>> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind that it >>>>>> might be an idea to check the wikipedia entry and see whether Wright >>>>>> is mentioned in it? I did. He was. >>>>> It wasn't as of yesterday when this story came out. >>>> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind to check the >>>> page history for the entry to see whether the claim you were making >>>> was true? I did. You can do it too. The reference to Reverend >>>> Wright was there yesterday. >>> LOL! So this is what you're talking about:
>>> "Obama resigned from Trinity during the Presidential campaign after >>> controversial statements made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright became public."
>>> Leaving aside how one can "resign" from a church in which one is not >>> employed, there's nothing there about the statements, nothing about the >>> credibility issues surrounding Obama's claims of how long he attended >> If you didn't mean "mention" you should have used another word.
> Ah, so we're playing the cowardly "nit-pick the semenatics" game. I > didn't realize that. My bad. I actually gave you more credit than that. > Won't happen again.
Than, you've played the semantics game before so don't whine.
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:24:38 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Gunner >>> Here's a real simple question. Who are the Plaintiffs names, who is >>> their legal representation, and what court is hearing the case?
>> I see you didnt review the article. Plaintiffs are clearly indicated
>> As to the courts, no idea except as noted in the article.
>I persued the article but it's kind of hard taking its value being on a >far right wing website.
Snicker. You mean any thing to the right of Pravda .....?
Laugh laugh laugh
Gunner
"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote: >Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>> Because Steele shit in his hat?
>Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. > I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
Got cites?
Then Ill provide the cites where the Leftards try to claim Limbaugh is head of the GOP, and makes you and them look stupid
Gunner
>> Gunner
>> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product >> A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced >> before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone >> before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected >> they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual >> and moral principles." >> —Sun Tzu
"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu
FDR wrote: > Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:28 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other >>>> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been >>>> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some >>>> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the >>>> US? >>> John McCain
>> Born on US property. In the Canal Zone. All quite legal.
> I don't think so. He can only prove it to me if he shows me a copy of > his birth certificate.
Yeah--and it can't be something handwritten that simply says "Canal Zone" at the top.
trotsky wrote: > FDR wrote: >> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:28 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other >>>>> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been >>>>> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some >>>>> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the >>>>> US? >>>> John McCain
>>> Born on US property. In the Canal Zone. All quite legal.
>> I don't think so. He can only prove it to me if he shows me a copy of >> his birth certificate.
> Yeah--and it can't be something handwritten that simply says "Canal > Zone" at the top.
Thanatos wrote: > In article <cq1dr415na7odgj3tbup72ndfkctdfn...@4ax.com>, > David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:12:12 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <0hpbr4pii7a2i0jbauut6a1d3mr6s43...@4ax.com>, >>> David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:48:35 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <v2fbr45gfnrcsm0asp5g7dgm53jiqaj...@4ax.com>, >>>>> David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:49:10 -0400, Thanatos <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> A perfect example is the Reverend Wright issue. That wasn't >>>>>>> substance-less innuendo at all. Obama himself went on national TV and >>>>>>> admitted that Wright's comments were inappropriate and divisive. It >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> a huge news story and a significant part of the campaign. Yet try and >>>>>>> even mention Wright on Obama's Wikipedia page and it gets deleted >>>>>>> instantly. >>>>>> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind that it >>>>>> might be an idea to check the wikipedia entry and see whether Wright >>>>>> is mentioned in it? I did. He was. >>>>> It wasn't as of yesterday when this story came out. >>>> Before writing that, did the thought ever cross your mind to check the >>>> page history for the entry to see whether the claim you were making >>>> was true? I did. You can do it too. The reference to Reverend >>>> Wright was there yesterday. >>> LOL! So this is what you're talking about:
>>> "Obama resigned from Trinity during the Presidential campaign after >>> controversial statements made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright became public."
>>> Leaving aside how one can "resign" from a church in which one is not >>> employed, there's nothing there about the statements, nothing about the >>> credibility issues surrounding Obama's claims of how long he attended >> If you didn't mean "mention" you should have used another word.
> Ah, so we're playing the cowardly "nit-pick the semenatics" game. I > didn't realize that. My bad. I actually gave you more credit than that. > Won't happen again.
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. >> I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
> Got cites?
You're so fond of Google searches, I'm sure you can find it without my help.
> Then Ill provide the cites where the Leftards try to claim Limbaugh is > head of the GOP, and makes you and them look stupid
> Gunner
>>> Gunner
>>> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product >>> A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced >>> before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone >>> before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected >>> they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual >>> and moral principles." >>> —Sun Tzu
> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product > A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced > before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone > before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected > they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual > and moral principles." > —Sun Tzu
FDR wrote: > Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a >>> fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere >>> entertainer.
Howard Johnson wrote: > FDR wrote: >> Gunner Asch wrote: >>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a >>>> fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere >>>> entertainer.
FDR wrote: > Howard Johnson wrote: >> FDR wrote: >>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>>>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>>>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a >>>>> fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere >>>>> entertainer.
Howard Johnson wrote: > FDR wrote: >> Howard Johnson wrote: >>> FDR wrote: >>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are trying to >>>>>>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>>>>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a >>>>>> fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere >>>>>> entertainer.
FDR wrote: > Howard Johnson wrote: >> FDR wrote: >>> Howard Johnson wrote: >>>> FDR wrote: >>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:26:05 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:39:09 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Actually..its been the DNC and its spokes holes that are >>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>> make the case his is the defacto leader of the GOP.
>>>>>>>>>> Limbaugh himself only claims to be an entertainer. >>>>>>>>> Then why is the RNC chair apologizing to a mere entertainer?
>>>>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>>>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>>>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw >>>>>>> a fit. I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere >>>>>>> entertainer.
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:55:07 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. >>> I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
>> Got cites?
>You're so fond of Google searches, I'm sure you can find it without my help.
Then you admit to being incompetent to even use google?
Gary Grado <mailto:ggr...@aztrib.com>, Sonu Munshi <mailto:smun...@evtrib.com>, Hayley Ringle <mailto:hrin...@aztrib.com>, Tribune
February 18, 2009 - 9:16AM
The protesters, about 500 to 600 strong and growing, began arriving as ticket holders walked in.
Mesa police set up a protest area along Guadalupe Road.
They held their signs up high: "Don't tread on me," "Spend all you want, I'll pick up the tab," "I'll keep my freedom! You keep the change!" "Free fertility drugs now." And "B.O. smells and so does Socialism."
A Gilbert woman, with a sign that said, "Fund bikini wax now," said she is entitled to the beauty treatment.
"It's a self-esteem issue and hygiene issue, which makes it a health care issue. I think we're all entitled," said the woman in jest. She only gave the name JoAnne, because she is skipping work.
Critics of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio showed up in force, as well.
At one point about 15 members of Somos America, in striped jail garb and linked by chains, marched passed the presidential protesters. Those protesters responded with chants: "We love Joe!"
Rob McElwain, spokesman for Somos, said they want an end to laws that allow local police to enforce immigration laws, an end to Arpaio's immigration sweeps and a federal investigation into Arpaio.
The Mesa Police Department stationed four neutral observers outside the school, including Phil Austin, former president of the Mesa Association of Hispanic Citizens.
Austin said things went smoothly, except for a few vendors trying to sell goods without a permit.
As protesters held their signs high, they exchanged cheers with the honking cars that passed.
The general message of the protesters was that Obama's policies would lead the country toward socialism.
"I'm out here to exercise my First Amendment rights while I still have them," said Tim Guiney, 52, a Phoenix sales manager. "Everything that man stands for is the antithesis of what this country was founded on. He's a Marxist, fascist."
Lee Bauer, 53, a social and fiscal conservative, said she doesn't believe in the $787 billion stimulus package signed by Obama Tuesday in Denver.
"Obama's stimulus package has only mobilized the opposition," she said.
Former Republican Congressman J.D. Hayworth of Arizona also was in attendance.
He called the bill a "trillion-dollar boondoggle."
A man shouted over a megaphone, "I want to see if the president is driving a (Toyota) Prius or an electric car."
"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:54:03 -0400, FDR wrote: > trotsky wrote: >> FDR wrote: >>> Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:28 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other >>>>>> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been >>>>>> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some >>>>>> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the >>>>>> US? >>>>> John McCain
>>>> Born on US property. In the Canal Zone. All quite legal.
>>> I don't think so. He can only prove it to me if he shows me a copy of >>> his birth certificate.
>> Yeah--and it can't be something handwritten that simply says "Canal >> Zone" at the top.
> Unless it's some porn.
Panamanian chicks aren't lookers but they're incredible lovers.
Gunner Asch wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:55:07 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. >>>> I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
>>> Got cites? >> You're so fond of Google searches, I'm sure you can find it without my help.
> Then you admit to being incompetent to even use google?
> Gary Grado <mailto:ggr...@aztrib.com>, Sonu Munshi > <mailto:smun...@evtrib.com>, Hayley Ringle > <mailto:hrin...@aztrib.com>, > Tribune
> February 18, 2009 - 9:16AM
> The protesters, about 500 to 600 strong and growing, began arriving as > ticket holders walked in.
> Mesa police set up a protest area along Guadalupe Road.
> They held their signs up high: "Don't tread on me," "Spend all you > want, > I'll pick up the tab," "I'll keep my freedom! You keep the change!" > "Free fertility drugs now." And "B.O. smells and so does Socialism."
> A Gilbert woman, with a sign that said, "Fund bikini wax now," said > she > is entitled to the beauty treatment.
> "It's a self-esteem issue and hygiene issue, which makes it a health > care issue. I think we're all entitled," said the woman in jest. She > only gave the name JoAnne, because she is skipping work.
> Critics of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio showed up in force, as > well.
> At one point about 15 members of Somos America, in striped jail garb > and > linked by chains, marched passed the presidential protesters. Those > protesters responded with chants: "We love Joe!"
> Rob McElwain, spokesman for Somos, said they want an end to laws that > allow local police to enforce immigration laws, an end to Arpaio's > immigration sweeps and a federal investigation into Arpaio.
> The Mesa Police Department stationed four neutral observers outside > the > school, including Phil Austin, former president of the Mesa > Association > of Hispanic Citizens.
> Austin said things went smoothly, except for a few vendors trying to > sell goods without a permit.
> As protesters held their signs high, they exchanged cheers with the > honking cars that passed.
> The general message of the protesters was that Obama's policies would > lead the country toward socialism.
> "I'm out here to exercise my First Amendment rights while I still have > them," said Tim Guiney, 52, a Phoenix sales manager. "Everything that > man stands for is the antithesis of what this country was founded on. > He's a Marxist, fascist."
> Lee Bauer, 53, a social and fiscal conservative, said she doesn't > believe in the $787 billion stimulus package signed by Obama Tuesday > in > Denver.
> "Obama's stimulus package has only mobilized the opposition," she > said.
> Former Republican Congressman J.D. Hayworth of Arizona also was in > attendance.
> He called the bill a "trillion-dollar boondoggle."
> A man shouted over a megaphone, "I want to see if the president is > driving a (Toyota) Prius or an electric car."
> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product > A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced > before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone > before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected > they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual > and moral principles." > —Sun Tzu
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:59:44 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote: >Gunner Asch wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:55:07 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
>>>>>> Because Steele shit in his hat? >>>>> Steele is the party and pegged Rush for exactly what he is, an >>>>> entertainer. When Rush got upset at the accuracy of it he threw a fit. >>>>> I still see no reason Steele had to apologize to a mere entertainer.
>>>> Got cites? >>> You're so fond of Google searches, I'm sure you can find it without my help.
>> Then you admit to being incompetent to even use google?
>> Gary Grado <mailto:ggr...@aztrib.com>, Sonu Munshi >> <mailto:smun...@evtrib.com>, Hayley Ringle >> <mailto:hrin...@aztrib.com>, >> Tribune
>> February 18, 2009 - 9:16AM
>> The protesters, about 500 to 600 strong and growing, began arriving as >> ticket holders walked in.
>> Mesa police set up a protest area along Guadalupe Road.
>> They held their signs up high: "Don't tread on me," "Spend all you >> want, >> I'll pick up the tab," "I'll keep my freedom! You keep the change!" >> "Free fertility drugs now." And "B.O. smells and so does Socialism."
>> A Gilbert woman, with a sign that said, "Fund bikini wax now," said >> she >> is entitled to the beauty treatment.
>> "It's a self-esteem issue and hygiene issue, which makes it a health >> care issue. I think we're all entitled," said the woman in jest. She >> only gave the name JoAnne, because she is skipping work.
>> Critics of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio showed up in force, as >> well.
>> At one point about 15 members of Somos America, in striped jail garb >> and >> linked by chains, marched passed the presidential protesters. Those >> protesters responded with chants: "We love Joe!"
>> Rob McElwain, spokesman for Somos, said they want an end to laws that >> allow local police to enforce immigration laws, an end to Arpaio's >> immigration sweeps and a federal investigation into Arpaio.
>> The Mesa Police Department stationed four neutral observers outside >> the >> school, including Phil Austin, former president of the Mesa >> Association >> of Hispanic Citizens.
>> Austin said things went smoothly, except for a few vendors trying to >> sell goods without a permit.
>> As protesters held their signs high, they exchanged cheers with the >> honking cars that passed.
>> The general message of the protesters was that Obama's policies would >> lead the country toward socialism.
>> "I'm out here to exercise my First Amendment rights while I still have >> them," said Tim Guiney, 52, a Phoenix sales manager. "Everything that >> man stands for is the antithesis of what this country was founded on. >> He's a Marxist, fascist."
>> Lee Bauer, 53, a social and fiscal conservative, said she doesn't >> believe in the $787 billion stimulus package signed by Obama Tuesday >> in >> Denver.
>> "Obama's stimulus package has only mobilized the opposition," she >> said.
>> Former Republican Congressman J.D. Hayworth of Arizona also was in >> attendance.
>> He called the bill a "trillion-dollar boondoggle."
>> A man shouted over a megaphone, "I want to see if the president is >> driving a (Toyota) Prius or an electric car."
>> "Human nature is bad. Good is a human product >> A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced >> before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone >> before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected >> they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual >> and moral principles." >> —Sun Tzu
>Yawns in your face.
Smells like you been smoking waaaaay too much weed, man
No wonder you are so patheticly stupid. Stoners tend to be that way.
Shrug
"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral principles." —Sun Tzu
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:54:03 -0400, FDR wrote: > > trotsky wrote: > >> FDR wrote: > >>> Gunner Asch wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:28 -0400, FDR <FDR@fkfkdkfd> wrote:
> >>>>>> One assumes that all the rest have been looked at. On the other > >>>>>> hand..Im rather sure that the question of citizenship has not been > >>>>>> raised with any other president. Unless you have citations to some > >>>>>> other presidential candidate that may have been born outside of the > >>>>>> US? > >>>>> John McCain
> >>>> Born on US property. In the Canal Zone. All quite legal.
> >>> I don't think so. He can only prove it to me if he shows me a copy of > >>> his birth certificate.
> >> Yeah--and it can't be something handwritten that simply says "Canal > >> Zone" at the top.
> > Unless it's some porn.
> Panamanian chicks aren't lookers but they're incredible lovers.
They can make pretty good Mom's, too, according to one airman I knew.
mrmcafee wrote: > Strabo wrote: >> Howard Johnson wrote: >>> David Johnston wrote: >>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:09:34 -0500, "charliekilo" >>>> <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Obama presented a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth...which is NOT >>>>> a birth certificate in the state of Hawaii. The Birth Certificate >>>>> he provided was a cobbled together certificate and was proven not >>>>> to be legit. Then when he went to visit his dying mother in Hawaii >>>>> several months ago, he met with the governor of Hawaii...and for >>>>> some reason, the governor "sealed" the record and the Certificate >>>>> will never be seen.
>>>> The problem with that is, it's a lie. The governor never "sealed" the >>>> record because original birth records were never open to viewing by >>>> the public in the first place.
>>> That's my impression also.
>> Courts, law enforcement, family, FBI, BATF, DOD, IRS and a hundred >> other agencies can order that a birth certificate be produced.
>> In this case the Obama-Soetoro Hawaiian birth certificate doesn't exist.
Strabo wrote: > mrmcafee wrote: >> Strabo wrote: >>> Howard Johnson wrote: >>>> David Johnston wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:09:34 -0500, "charliekilo" >>>>> <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Obama presented a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth...which is >>>>>> NOT a birth certificate in the state of Hawaii. The Birth >>>>>> Certificate he provided was a cobbled together certificate and was >>>>>> proven not to be legit. Then when he went to visit his dying >>>>>> mother in Hawaii several months ago, he met with the governor of >>>>>> Hawaii...and for some reason, the governor "sealed" the record and >>>>>> the Certificate will never be seen.
>>>>> The problem with that is, it's a lie. The governor never "sealed" the >>>>> record because original birth records were never open to viewing by >>>>> the public in the first place.
>>>> That's my impression also.
>>> Courts, law enforcement, family, FBI, BATF, DOD, IRS and a hundred >>> other agencies can order that a birth certificate be produced.
>>> In this case the Obama-Soetoro Hawaiian birth certificate doesn't exist.
> Can't seem to find the doctors signature (among other missing info).
> This is NOT a birth certificate.
It is good enough to get you a US Passport, or to allow you to register to vote in Arizona since it is official proof of natural citizenship (live birth in the US). Too bad McCain's proof of citizenship just proves that he is a naturalized citizen.
mrmcafee wrote: > Strabo wrote: >> mrmcafee wrote: >>> Strabo wrote: >>>> Howard Johnson wrote: >>>>> David Johnston wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:09:34 -0500, "charliekilo" >>>>>> <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Obama presented a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth...which is >>>>>>> NOT a birth certificate in the state of Hawaii. The Birth >>>>>>> Certificate he provided was a cobbled together certificate and >>>>>>> was proven not to be legit. Then when he went to visit his dying >>>>>>> mother in Hawaii several months ago, he met with the governor of >>>>>>> Hawaii...and for some reason, the governor "sealed" the record >>>>>>> and the Certificate will never be seen.
>>>>>> The problem with that is, it's a lie. The governor never "sealed" >>>>>> the >>>>>> record because original birth records were never open to viewing by >>>>>> the public in the first place.
>>>>> That's my impression also.
>>>> Courts, law enforcement, family, FBI, BATF, DOD, IRS and a hundred >>>> other agencies can order that a birth certificate be produced.
>>>> In this case the Obama-Soetoro Hawaiian birth certificate doesn't >>>> exist.
>> Can't seem to find the doctors signature (among other missing info).
>> This is NOT a birth certificate.
> It is good enough to get you a US Passport, or to allow you to register > to vote in Arizona since it is official proof of natural citizenship > (live birth in the US).
>
Not good enough for me. A 'live birth' certificate is simply a claim of a live birth in a particular area. Easy to get and easy to fake.
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