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Way Back Jack  
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From: Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack)
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:11:49 GMT
Local: Sun, Mar 8 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
why they chose her.

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From: Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:05:45 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 8 2009 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article <49b42582.27123...@news.motzarella.org>,
 Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

> I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
> wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
> doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
> blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
> why they chose her.

I'm not crazy about her, but I don't blame the actress; the whole show
went downhill about the time she joined.  I like her daughter better
than I did Sharona's son.

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From: ib...@san.rr.com
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:02:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 8 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mar 8, 5:05 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <49b42582.27123...@news.motzarella.org>,
>  Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

> > I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
> > wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
> > doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
> > blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
> > why they chose her.

> I'm not crazy about her, but I don't blame the actress; the whole show
> went downhill about the time she joined.

Nah, she sucks.

Ian  (The show actually went into the crapper before Sharona left (or
was, more likely, fired - I'd like to get the real story on what
happened here, as I'm pretty sure Bitty Schram got a raw deal...), but
Traylor Howard is as annoying as s***, and always has been.)


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From: "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:34:29 -0400
Local: Sun, Mar 8 2009 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:ANIM8Rfsk-5A5504.17054508032009@news.west.cox.net...

> In article <49b42582.27123...@news.motzarella.org>,
> Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

>> I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
>> wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
>> doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
>> blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
>> why they chose her.

> I'm not crazy about her, but I don't blame the actress; the whole show
> went downhill about the time she joined.  I like her daughter better
> than I did Sharona's son.

I "liked" them both.

I think the produces "tarted" up Sharona a little bit too much.   But I
enjoyed her "edge."

I don't get cable (or sat.) so I bought the first 5 seasons and watch the
shows in semi-random order.

"Natilie" has a background that permitted a much wider range of plots (her
family is RICH -- in the past, many popular fictional detectives had an
independent income and one or two were quite rich.)

It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
catfight!

I have only seen part of one episode of the current season.   I find myself
wondering about how Monk is working around the death of Dr. Kroger.


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From: David <dimla...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:05 am
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mar 8, 11:34 pm, "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com> wrote:

Sharona was more of a prototypical nurse. Natalie is more of a friend
and partner, even taking the lead on a few cases, which has changed
the dynamics of the show. The writers also made Monk more
unintentionally cruel, which has made Natalie sympathetic. I don't
remember Sharona being sympathetic at all.

> It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
> catfight!

The episode where Monk faked his death was the perfect opportunity to
bring her back. I guess the actress isn't interested.

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ib...@san.rr.com  
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From: ib...@san.rr.com
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:44 am
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mar 8, 9:05 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mar 8, 11:34 pm, "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com> wrote:

> > It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
> > catfight!

> The episode where Monk faked his death was the perfect opportunity to
> bring her back. I guess the actress isn't interested.

Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

Yeah, me either...


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From: Font of All Important Info <dez...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:37:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:44:43 -0700 (PDT), ib...@san.rr.com felt
compelled by mysterious forces to say:

>On Mar 8, 9:05 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 11:34 pm, "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com> wrote:

>> > It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
>> > catfight!

>> The episode where Monk faked his death was the perfect opportunity to
>> bring her back. I guess the actress isn't interested.

>Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
>apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

>Yeah, me either...

she was supposedly fired because she was holding out for more money
and being a general pain in the ass about it (not showing up to
rehearse, etc.).

--dez

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From: EGK <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:13:07 -0400
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 8:13 am
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:44:43 -0700 (PDT), ib...@san.rr.com wrote:
>On Mar 8, 9:05 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 11:34 pm, "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com> wrote:

>> > It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
>> > catfight!

>> The episode where Monk faked his death was the perfect opportunity to
>> bring her back. I guess the actress isn't interested.

>Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
>apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

>Yeah, me either...

I think I read at the time that she left under a contract dispute.  She
simply wanted more money than they were willing to pay so she walked.

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From: trotsky <gmsi...@email.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:38:06 GMT
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

Did they make it to two or three episodes, then?

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From: "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:07:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

"David" <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>Sharona was more of a prototypical nurse. Natalie is more of a friend
>and partner, even taking the lead on a few cases, which has changed
>the dynamics of the show.

I like both actresses, but the Natalie character is far better than the
Sharona character.

>The writers also made Monk more unintentionally cruel,

The reason the show has gone down hill is that they changed the Monk
character from a focus around his mental illness disrupting (but not
preventing) his life into a focus on pratfalls and 'gimmick of the week'
phobias.  Monk is a lot closer to The Pink Panther at this point than he is
a person living with a mental illness.

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Way Back Jack  
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From: Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack)
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:15:06 GMT
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 9:15 am
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

Yes, that's one version,  Another version is that the producers wanted
to "change direction."

Wonder which version is accurate.


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From: EGK <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:01:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:15:06 GMT, Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

I'd bet on the money, myself.  The "change direction" excuse is usually used
when they don't want to talk about contract disputes.  I also remember
reading at the time that the actors playing the policemen also held out.  If
they hadn't come to terms, I'm sure we'd see a "change of direction" where
they were concerned too.

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From: Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:53:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article <49b51622.11926...@news.motzarella.org>,
 Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

An alternate of that is that they decided to make an example out of
somebody so it wouldn't happen again, and she was their choice.

--
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From: ib...@san.rr.com
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mar 9, 7:53 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:

And if she was chosen for 'the hit', you can guarantee there were
other subsurface reasons for making her "the example".

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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:36:02 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article
<422f8461-096a-439a-903e-3f8d1d9a6...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

Sure.  Which could have been character and/or actress.  "Who is the
easiest to replace?"

I'd have said Disher.  Stottlemeyer would be almost impossible; the
audience isn't gonna buy another old cop buddy of Monk's taking over
homicide that would put up with him.  But hire a new nurse?  Sure.

--
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From: Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:29:15 GMT
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:05:45 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
wrote:

>In article <49b42582.27123...@news.motzarella.org>,
> Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

>> I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
>> wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
>> doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
>> blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
>> why they chose her.

>I'm not crazy about her, but I don't blame the actress; the whole show
>went downhill about the time she joined.  I like her daughter better
>than I did Sharona's son.

I'm new to Monk.  Did they ever find his wife's killer?

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From: Captain Infinity <Infin...@captaininfinity.us>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:37:31 GMT
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
Once Upon A Time,

Way Back Jack wrote:
>I'm new to Monk.  Did they ever find his wife's killer?

The One-Armed Man did it.

**
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:02:09 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
Way Back Jack <chill...@home.net> wrote:

They can't even find a consistent back story for her.

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From: Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:47:14 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article <49b5b438.52395...@news.motzarella.org>,
 Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:

No, and he keeps forgetting to try.

--
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From: Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:26:29 +0100
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article <49b42582.27123...@news.motzarella.org>, Here...@Home.org
says...

> I'm talking about the actress Traylor Howard.  I think she stinks and
> wish that they had never replaced Sharona (Bitty Schram).  Howard
> doesn't have anything going for her as an actress.  Just dull and
> blah.  I see so many talented comediennes today; it make you wonder
> why they chose her.

She's kinda cute.

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From: Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:26:40 +0100
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
In article <edb323b9-5666-49c9-8da1-075e3a5f0b5e@
33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...

> On Mar 8, 9:05 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 11:34 pm, "John Gilmer" <jlgil...@localnet.com> wrote:

> > > It might be fun to bring back Sharona and let her and Natilie get into a
> > > catfight!

> > The episode where Monk faked his death was the perfect opportunity to
> > bring her back. I guess the actress isn't interested.

> Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
> apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

> Yeah, me either...

Which show were you fired from? :)

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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:28:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
On Mar 9, 9:00 am, ib...@san.rr.com wrote:

Yeah she was made an example because she called in sick ,held up
production and didn't know her lines.
Get over it,
Monk is entering it's eighth and final season being USA's #1 show.
Traylor has been on the show longer than Bitty and was a tremendous
casting choice for the show.
The show could have easily been destroyed by the producers decision to
draw a line on the sand and yet it thrived.
tHE HSOW HAD GUEST STARS MOST SHOWS WOULD KILL TO GET ON THE SMALL
CREEN
Kudos to the show and the cast for giving us 8 great years in Monkland

I realise the show has has had some subpar epsiodes but even at it's
worst it was always entertaining.

That's all you can ask for in a tv show
e


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From: Tony Calguire <calgu...@tcfreenet.invalid>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:26:12 -0500
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Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote in
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> In article <edb323b9-5666-49c9-8da1-075e3a5f0b5e@
> 33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...

>> Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
>> apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

>> Yeah, me either...

> Which show were you fired from? :)

I don't think Ian's been fired from any shows... "Barred from the set" is a
completely different thing.

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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:28:05 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:28 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?

Oooh. Someone attempting to start a rumor and talk trash!

We've heard plenty of rumors of cast demands for higher wages during that
season. No one, but no one, stated that Bitty Schram ever showed up on
set unprepared to work. She wasn't trying to give producers a valid
reason to replace her!


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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Mar 9 2009, 11:30 pm
Newsgroups: alt.bitterness, rec.arts.tv, alt.gossip.celebrities
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:30:29 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Do You Like Natalie On Mr. Monk?
Tony Calguire  <calgu...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:

>Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote in
>news:MPG.241fee4a99e63a9698cc5e@news.usenetserver.com:

>> In article <edb323b9-5666-49c9-8da1-075e3a5f0b5e@
>> 33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ib...@san.rr.com says...

>>> Yeah, uh, would you want to go back to a show where you were
>>> apparently fired, probably for completely unjustifiable reasons?

>>> Yeah, me either...

>> Which show were you fired from? :)

>I don't think Ian's been fired from any shows... "Barred from the set" is a
>completely different thing.

If he'd promise to wear pants...

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